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Lancaster PA Sheriff Sale Foreclosures And Other Options

Lancaster PA Foreclosures sheriff salesWhen it comes to "great deals in distressed properties, the first rule is that nothing's as simple as it sounds...

Regarding a recent customer letter about Sheriff Sales, I thought I'd post my reply for the edification of the deal-hunters in training out there.  These are my opinions & observations - give me a call for more detail if you're interested!

1. Homes at the Sheriff Sale that have value will be sought after by professionals, of which there are about 4-5 at every sale.  A good value consists of low outstanding loan balances, good location and acceptable condition.  Those houses get bid up pretty high, and it's abssolutely critical to know your margin to a fine degree.  The pros bring laptops with each auction detailed with estimated resale, top bid and other notes to help keep everything straight during the sale.  You should try to attend the next one to see how things flow.  One other thing - you'll need to research and have at least 5 properties you want to invest in - because at least 2 of those will get pulled just before the sale date (due to a stay issued by the judge) and the pros will get at least 2 others from you...

2. Under a Sheriff or Tax Lein (public) sale all responsibility rests upon the purchaser to handle everything.  If there's a hidden lein or if someone needs evicted, or if there are huge water bills owed, the purchaser gets to deal with it.  There's no help from anyone in a public sale situation.

Bottom line - Public sales are very risky for first-time investors, and should only be undertaken with tremendous prior preparation and thorough funding.  Only a very few of my customers ever go this direction in the end.  Depending on your business goals, I'd recommend that you try to purchase either:
1) an open-market foreclosure (there are lots more out there these days - I can email you daily updates if you wish).  These sales have had the title cleaned by the lender before being re-offered to the public.  I sell a lot of these to investors, and the key is to be able to jump on a good one the same day.  If the seller decides that there might be some more money to be milked out of a buyer, they'll immediately announce what's called a "highest and best" deadline for all interested parties.  Again, you need to really know your numbers, be it resale or rental income vs. expenses.
2) HUD resales - every Friday watch www.hooksvanholm.com, which is the PA outlet for gov't foreclosure sales.  Not as much inventory, but the titles are clean and they make it easy.  The competition can be fierce because everyone knows about this but once in a long while you can catch an opening and get a deal.  The bidding is all done sealed online through an authorized broker (which I am one).  Investors have to wait a week to bid but it gives you a few days to do your numbers before placing your bid - a rare convenience in this game.

Hope this helps - let me know what you'd like to go after!  I can meet you for coffee some time if you'd like to go over your business plan in more detail. 

Thanks,
Jeff


Comments

I get two or three calls a week about these and I explain to them the same things you said here. It isn't as easy or without risk as the late night commercials that charge $2000 to buy their program make it sound.

Todd

Posted by Todd Clark (Broker) (503)524-9494 (Beaverton, Oregon Real Estate Expert) (Knipe Realty) about 4 years ago

Gee Jeff. 

I didn't hear that on the late night TV advertisement selling " How To Get Rich Buying Tax Sale Real Estate".

 

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker, Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) about 4 years ago
Todd - things are same all over!  Doesn't matter if you're on the west or east coast...thanks for your comment!
Posted by Jeff R. Geoghan - Marketing Evangelist and VP (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals) about 4 years ago
Lenn - go ahead and spend the money on the package - the devil is in the details, right?
Posted by Jeff R. Geoghan - Marketing Evangelist and VP (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals) about 4 years ago

Jeff, good information about the pitfalls. Then the homeowners get 6 months to gut the home and there's nothing you can do about it.

Just to show you how things differ. I was at a dheriff sale last week. There were 15 people in attendance, all homes were purchased by the bank with no offers. All homes owed more that they were worth (on public records)  My client finally understood why I suggested short sale homes.

There was a crowd of people 3-4 deep at the window where the legal notices were posted.

Posted by Gary Smith (Agent Marketing Today) about 4 years ago

Hi Jeff, This is a great local post and one I think many of your readers will be appreciative of. Are you allowed a consulting fee in PA to provide services for those that seek out these types of purchases? There is no provison for this kind of service in CA.

It sure has been a while, Hope you are doing well. Have a Wonderful and Very Merry Christmas to you and your whole family and a Healthy and Happy New Year too!

PS, I miss our comment conversations. Stay well and happy.

Posted by San Diego Real Estate Voice authored by William Johnson GRI CRS e-Pro CDPE (RE/MAX Associates) about 4 years ago
Good post, Jeff.  I tell my buyers the same thing - sheriff sales are almost certainly not for first-timers, and not for anyone who hasn't done considerable homework.
Posted by Brian Schulman - Your Lancaster County, PA Real Estate Expert (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals, Lancaster PA) about 4 years ago
Gary - so true on the trashing!  People sure can display their anger in these situations.
Posted by Jeff R. Geoghan - Marketing Evangelist and VP (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals) about 4 years ago
William - it has been a while!  Things are seeming to move in FF this fall.  No, we can't develop an income stream outside of commission income either...
Posted by Jeff R. Geoghan - Marketing Evangelist and VP (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals) about 4 years ago
Brian - agreed, these sales are fraught with pitfalls and any first-timers should think hard about it...but with lots of research and local real estate knowledge I think deals can be had.
Posted by Jeff R. Geoghan - Marketing Evangelist and VP (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals) about 4 years ago
Excellent advice, Jeff.  It's pretty easy for a novice investor to get caught up in the moment and abandon any plan they might have had.  Whoops, did I say plan?  That IS the first step, not a sheriff's sale or auction!
Posted by Margaret Woda, Maryland Real Estate & Military Relocation Services (Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc., Crofton, MD) about 4 years ago
I agree, Margaret - I always try to meet with my investor clients up front and review their strategy and financing plan.  Thanks for your comment!
Posted by Jeff R. Geoghan - Marketing Evangelist and VP (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals) about 4 years ago
Jeff- This is great advice! Too much late night TV is filling the quick money seekers. It is not as easy as they say it is! Use a professional agent! Katerina
Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Homes For Sale (International Properties and Investments, Inc.) about 4 years ago

Jeff, you have some good information here. Do you regurally attend? Have you ever bought anything at a sheriff sale?

Posted by Ben Rutt -- Real Estate Agent Lancaster, PA (Keller Williams - Lancaster, PA) over 1 year ago

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